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saywat

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 5:38 pm
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Does anyone remember the make of car used in the tv series?

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 10:25 pm
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Time Traveler wrote:
> Does anyone remember the make of car used in the tv series?
>
>
It might have been a Borgward: http://imdb.com/title/tt0043182/usercomments

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm
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I had seen that posting before but don't think it was a Borgward.As far
as I can tell Borgward had conventional opening doors.Blackie's car had
suicide doors,and was a 4 seater.I have looked at all possible makes of
that era with no success.I thought it had been a modified Delahaye or a
Muntz(Kurtis).I have been trying over the years with no definite answer
yet.The length of time since the show aired has added to the
difficulty.The people directly involved in the show have passed,
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:25 pm
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On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:38:10 -0400, SAYWAT DeleteThis @webtv.net (Time Traveler)
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>Does anyone remember the make of car used in the tv series?

Might have been a Crosley .

http://www.hubcapcafe.com/ocs/pages01/cros4901.htm

http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/bv/images/50crosleyss.jpg

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saywat

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 2:30 pm
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Definitely was not a Crosley,ruled them out a long time ago.The tv show
was a low budget syndicated program.It will probably be a one of a kind
custom job from some shop in LA done for little cash.It is said the
answer for any question is on the web somewhere,but so far not for this
one.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:16 pm
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On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:30:17 -0400, SAYWAT DeleteThis @webtv.net (Time Traveler)
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>Definitely was not a Crosley,ruled them out a long time ago.The tv show
>was a low budget syndicated program.It will probably be a one of a kind
>custom job from some shop in LA done for little cash.It is said the
>answer for any question is on the web somewhere,but so far not for this
>one.
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Um...."low budget" and "done for little cash" don't go along with "one
of a kind custom job." Even back then, it would have been much cheaper
to use a production vehicle unless the show required something
special, a la "Batman."

Did I read in one of the earlier posts that some episodes are
available on video? If you can come up with a still from a video, even
a grainy, blurry one, someone might recognize it.

Sounds as if it was a small car, if people are suggesting Borgwards
and Crosleys. There were a number of little British and European cars
with suicide doors. Was it a four door or two door?

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 4:41 am
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It was a 2 door,I bought a video of tv detectives that had an episode of
BB on it but it has only a partial side view of the car.It had him
opening the suicide door on the passenger side,and that was it.It was
not that small of a convertible like the small British types or a
Crosley Hot Shot.I t could have been somebody's custom job on loan to
the series.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 4:44 am
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Might also go to NYC to the Museum of tv and radio to see if they have
anything on file.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 1:09 pm
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I barely remember the series but not the car, I know in 1933 and 34 the
fords and terraplanes had suicide doors, early 50s mercury had back suicide
doors..
Cheers Roger

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 12:00 am
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The car was not a Merc,keep it in mind Blackie's car was a
convertible.There is a possibility the car could have been a regular car
with its top chopped off to make it look like a convertible.The Ziv
production company had 3 criteria for their shows:it had to be done
cheaply.low cost and finally it needed to be inexpensive.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 11:10 pm
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On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:00:30 -0400, SAYWAT.DeleteThis@webtv.net (Time Traveler)
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>The car was not a Merc,keep it in mind Blackie's car was a
>convertible.There is a possibility the car could have been a regular car
>with its top chopped off to make it look like a convertible.The Ziv
>production company had 3 criteria for their shows:it had to be done
>cheaply.low cost and finally it needed to be inexpensive.

I think that this is the most likely scenario. Unfortunately, the
customization has eliminated clues as to the actual make of the car.

There are many possibilities:
1949-50 Kurtiss
1951-52 Muntz Jet (Muntz bought the factory from Kurtiss)
1951(or 52) Henry J
1950 Skorpion Sports Roadster
1951 Frazen (fiberglass body on Henry J, but Blackies grill was
different.)
several models and years of Crosley (modified)
and probably many others.

Fiberglass kit cars were coming of age about this time.

Blackie's car had the front wheel openings completely enclosed, like
full fender skirts, but molded to the fender. Must have been fun when
the car had a flat. I've seen this on a 39 bugatti, and a one off
1930's Cadillac V-16 built for Ethel Mars, of the candy family.

Blackie's windshield was curved glass, mounted on two chrome A pillars
that sat on oval chrome bases. The windshield bottom did not reach
the body. It had a pair of suicide doors. The car also had bulbous
fins, and looked a little like a giant black bathtub Porsche.

The hood appeared to have a leaded in hood ornament, a protuberance in
the front center of the hood. Not like any other cars I've seen.

I don't know if it had a back seat or not, I do remember an extension
of the surface ahead of the trunk, that half way divided the back into
two halves.

Regarding being a convertible, there did not seem to be any way to
secure a rag top, and it may or may not have had a Carson top. It may
have been an open vehicle.

This is quite a poser.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 2:38 pm
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The hardest part to understand is the difficulty in getting the
information,this show ran for 3 seasons.When you see some reviews of the
show they sometimes refer to his snazzy convertible,so it did stand out
to these people.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 1:41 am
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 10:38 pm
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On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 21:41:53 -0700, "Marchant, Jon A."
wrote:

>On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 19:10:36 -0500, the heekster
>sez:
>>
>>I think that this is the most likely scenario. Unfortunately, the
>>customization has eliminated clues as to the actual make of the car.
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>>the heekster, BS#4, preposterous
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>Yo, Heek.
>
>Odd to meet you here, outside the confines of the VB&G.
>
Hi, Jon, I get around.

>I've still got the '38 (rhd) and '48 Packards, and a new hot rod '29
>Essex.

I saw your Essex. It is so tiny. I remember when you got the '38
Packard, for what I recall as a very decent price.

> I'm thinking I need to sell the '48, or else find a new wife. I
>guess I could flip a coin.
>
When I get a new (to me) one, I just tell the missus that we are going
on a trip. She has a good time, and I get a new toy.

I have two 1942 Buick Limiteds, Series 90. Straight 8s, compound
carburetion. One is having its sheetmetal made whole, and one is
being stripped, in preparation for bodywork.

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